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New Member
posted Mar 20, 2024 12:55:23 PM

T4A(P) No. of Months disability vs retirement

I have a T4A(P) that contains both Retirement benefit and Disability benefit. It appears that the software expects you to have "No. of Months" filled in for both disability and retirement if this is the case. After calling and confirming with ServiceCanada, they have directed filling in only box 21 (disability) with 12 months. This leads to an error and prevents netfile from working.

 

Is this something I'm doing wrong?

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Intuit Alumni
Mar 20, 2024 1:06:04 PM

Ensure that you've matched up the box with the number of months entered to the proper type of income.

Box 23 is how many months you received the amounts in Box 14 - retirement income. Box 21 is how many months your received the amounts in Box 16 - disability benefit. Please see the image below.

 

 

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New Member
Mar 20, 2024 1:08:20 PM

Hi,

 

The original T4A(P) I received only had a value in one of the month boxes (not both). I then received an amended T4A(P) that didn't have a value in either of the month boxes.

 

After calling ServiceCanada, they have directed that box 21 should be filled in with 12 months, and nothing for box 23.

 

Not sure how to proceed with ServiceCanada only providing a value for one of them.

Intuit Alumni
Mar 20, 2024 1:14:31 PM

Is your income in box 16 or in box 14?

 

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New Member
Mar 20, 2024 1:33:12 PM

There are amounts specified in both boxes, but I'm being told by the slip provider to enter 12 months in disability months and 0 in retirement months, which TurboTax flags as an error.

Moderator
Mar 20, 2024 1:54:45 PM

If you were receiving both disability & retirement benefits, then you should have 12 months in both box 21 & 23.

 

But if it's not letting you file that way, try entering your disability as one T4A(P), then your retirement as another T4A(P).

Returning Member
Mar 21, 2024 10:44:16 AM

  • I am having the same problem. I tried doing 2 separate T4Ap's and putting 12 months for each and it still won't let me file. It says you can't have more than 12 months total.

Intuit Alumni
Mar 21, 2024 10:55:19 AM

Ensure that you've matched up the box with the number of months entered to the proper type of income.

Box 23 is how many months you received the amounts in Box 14 - retirement income. Box 21 is how many months your received the amounts in Box 16 - disability benefit. Please see the image below.

 

 

 

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Returning Member
Mar 21, 2024 10:57:19 AM

  • I have retirement and disability income. But the number of months is blank for both. 

Intuit Alumni
Mar 21, 2024 11:00:43 AM

Enter the amount of months you believe you were receiving each amount.

 

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Returning Member
Mar 21, 2024 11:04:11 AM

I received each for 12 months but it won't let me put more than 12 months total for both together. Do I put 6 months each? I got it for 12 though.

Intuit Alumni
Mar 21, 2024 11:11:02 AM

1- Do you have one or two information slips?

2- If you have only one slip, do you have an amount in box 14 and also in box 16?

3- When did the amount of income change for you? Did you receive disability only in a certain month and retirement income in the other month?

 

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Returning Member
Mar 21, 2024 11:17:24 AM

I got one with only an amount in box 14 and 12 in box 23. Then I got an amendment with amounts in box 14 and 16, but nothing in box 21 or 23. I don't remember when I got the disability payments but I can't put 12 in box 23. It wants me to have a number in box 21 and they can't add up to more than 12. It doesn't make sense.

Intuit Alumni
Mar 21, 2024 11:28:28 AM

1- You only use the amended information slip as it replaces the first one.

2- Because you have an amount in each box 14 and box 16, you need an amount in each of 21 and 23

3- This means that you either have to call the CPP people at 1-800-277-9914 to find out how many months of disability or retirement you have received or you can verify your bank account to see when the amounts changed and enter the number of months for each. You may even be able to view the amounts through your MSCA (My Service Canada Account) if you have one.

4- The number in box 21 and box 23 cannot add to more than 12 months.

 

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Returning Member
Mar 21, 2024 11:36:10 AM

Ok. Thanks

But I did have retirement for the whole year so the number would be 12 for that. If I got the disability starting in say June I can't put 7 months for that and 12 for retirement. So I would only be able to put 4, but I got it for the whole year.

Intuit Alumni
Mar 21, 2024 11:42:04 AM

No it would have to be 5 and 7. They cannot add up more than 12. Some months were probably only disability then it changed to retirement after 65?

 

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Returning Member
Mar 21, 2024 11:49:01 AM

No that's not the case as I will only be 65 later this year. I started getting CPP retirement before 2023.

Intuit Alumni
Mar 21, 2024 11:50:20 AM

Ok you will need to find out from CPP or your bank account statements when the amount changed.

 

Thank you.

 

Returning Member
Mar 24, 2024 7:01:23 AM

I am having the same challenge.

Collected both disability and  retirement for 12 months but cannot report that without error from Netfile.

I tried 12 months for each and that was an error, 12 months disability, as per CRA and 0 retirement.....error.

0 and 0 produced another error, separate forms with 12 each, another error. 

I have only one more chance to submit. HELP!

Returning Member
Mar 24, 2024 7:14:05 AM

Could this be a glitch in TurboTax software? I did collect disability and pension for 12 months each. CRA indicated reporting only 12 months of disability.

 Last year, same situation, both boxes were 0 and it processed.

Returning Member
Mar 24, 2024 9:38:44 AM

So I have gone through files and this is not a regular disability. It is a CPP post-retirement disability which is why both are for 12 months. 

How does this get reported?

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Mar 25, 2024 7:25:58 AM

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