Retirement tax questions

Hi britgeezer,

My situation is very similar to yours; 

  • Full time US residents / citizens receiving SS for both partners. I am dual US/UK citizen, my wife is US citizen.
  • UK government paid to both partners based on working contributions (mine) prior to moving to the US.
  • Previous UK employer pension paid to 1 person
  • US tax Basis, married filing jointly.
  • UK basis no tax deducted from any pension (income less than 12,500 pounds).
  • UK pension amounts declared to SS.

For me the following seems to give no way out of paying taxes on UK pension;

IRS Publication 901, page 33, states that "Pensions paid by, or funds created by, the United Kingdom...........are exempt from US income tax unless the recipient is both a resident and a citizen of the United States".

 

Article 17 of the UK - USA Tax Treaty, section 3, seems to be relevant, 

"3. Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraph 1 of this article, payments made by a Contracting State (in this case, say UK) under the provisions of the social security or similar legislation of that State (UK) to a resident of the other Contracting State (USA) shall be taxable only in that other State (USA).

 

As a resident and dual UK/US citizen I cannot find a way to escape taxation on my UK pensions.

 

When we filed for SS, 2 years ago, I discussed the issue of reducing SS payments by the UK pension (disclosing to them how much my UK pension was) and was told that was not an issue for me.  I cannot remember the precise details but it may have been that I did not need to count UK credits to qualify for U.S retirement benefits.