UK Goverment Pension and Private Pension - Tax free in US or not?

I’m confused by the varying information being posted about the the US tax liability of the payment of UK government Pensions paid to US Residents / Citizens. Different people seem to read article 17 and deduce different answers, so perhaps we can ask for the answer from those that have successfully filed.

 

If I may I would like to address the following situation:

  • Full time residents / citizens receiving SS for both partners.
  • UK government paid to both partners based on working contributions prior to moving to the US.
  • Previous UK employer pension paid to 1 person
  • US tax Basis, married filing jointly.
  • UK basis no tax deducted from any pension.
  • UK pension amounts declared to SS.

Depending on which opinion you read, article 17 is designed to avoid being taxed twice (UK+US) but I suspect most people interested in Article 17 pay no UK tax because of the amounts being below any UK tax threshold and or non-residency.

So, the questions are:

  1. Is a UK government pension not taxed in the UK subject to US tax liability or excluded under article 17?
  2. Does the same answer apply to private UK pensions (contributions from employee and employer?
  3. How is the pension correctly reported in Turbo Tax?

Where can you download a copy of article 17?